[SIPForum-techwg] Avaya Contribution for SIPconnect 1.1
Francois Audet
audet at nortel.com
Mon Jun 9 11:54:49 EDT 2008
It could be for both, although really, SRTP is end-to-end. So if a service provider doesn't find it necessary to support in its media gateways, then it won't be used.
The major point is that before you use SRTP-only, you really need to make sure that everybody in the network supports it because calls will fail otherwise. In practical deployment today, it is generally not feasible. Therefore, you really need a way to "turn off" SRTP-only as it is likely to be deployed only in specialized applications. The "best-effort SRTP" using media negotiation will be very useful because it's designed to be backward compatible.
IPsec vs TLS/SRTP is not an "either/or". IPsec is just securing the access network, not end-to-end media. If a service provider wishes to use IPsec at the access, it's ok. We should probably say something about it in the document. It's a good point. I can see that there will be many cases where, for example, the service provider will require IPsec at the access, but enterprises may want to use SRTP end-to-end.
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From: DOLLY, MARTIN C, ATTLABS [mailto:mdolly at att.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 07:02
To: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); Johnston, Alan B (Alan); techwg at sipforum.org
Subject: RE: [SIPForum-techwg] Avaya Contribution for SIPconnect 1.1
Francois,
So, is SRTP intended within a enterprise and between the same corporate campuses only, or is it also intended to be used toward a service provider?
And the same question for mandating TCP/TLS?
We would prefer using IPsec for interconnection.
Martin
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From: techwg-bounces at sipforum.org [mailto:techwg-bounces at sipforum.org] On Behalf Of Francois Audet
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:21 PM
To: Johnston, Alan B (Alan); techwg at sipforum.org
Subject: Re: [SIPForum-techwg] Avaya Contribution for SIPconnect 1.1
Hi Alan,
This is great. Lots of useful material in there.
Here are a few comments:
* I like the connected identity addition. This will be quite useful.
* I like the new section on media security. I think we need to be a little more explicit on the "Always SRTP" implications of your text (i.e., the call will fail if both ends do not support SRTP, and therefore use with caution). I think we could address it by having a sub-section for "Always SRTP" and another one for "Best-Effort SRTP". I could provide some text for the "Best-Effort SRTP" section providing guidance on the use of draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-capability-negotiation (which should be RFC by the time SIPConnect 1.1 is done).
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I like the way you are handling Presence and IM support. I think this is exactly how we should treat it.
*
It would be nice to explain that the reason PUBLISH is not supported at this time is that it's normally used within the domain of the enterpise (i.e., you could move it to the next paragraph that talks about resource lists, XCAP, watcher info.
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From: techwg-bounces at sipforum.org [mailto:techwg-bounces at sipforum.org] On Behalf Of Johnston, Alan B (Alan)
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 08:25
To: techwg at sipforum.org
Subject: [SIPForum-techwg] Avaya Contribution for SIPconnect 1.1
All,
Here is a contribution from Avaya for SIPconnect 1.1. In some areas it is more 2.0 than 1.1 but it really is quite a lot of work to revise the specification, and to do so but add little of interest or value could be a mistake. For example, we propose adding secure media and presence exchange to SIPconnect.
http://www.sipforum.org/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,146/Itemid,75/
Comments are most welcome.
Thanks,
Alan
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